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sage bodhisattv
September 6th, 2002, 02:18 PM
I dunno if I gave these URLs and book titles but they
serve as inspiration:

Riane Eisler has a series of books starting with The Chalice and the Blade (HarperCollins, NYC, 1988), Sacred Pleasure (HarperCollins, 1995), The Partnership Way (Holistic Education Press, 1998), Tomorrow's Children (Westview Press, Boulder, 2000). She also wrote a novel based on her family's escape from the Nazis, grrowing up in Havana called The Gate (iuniverse.com).

Her website is http://www.partnershipway.org

I hope the people who are living the partnership way will take time out to read The Chalice and the Blade and especially Tomorrow's Children.

Having said that I have found that Sacred Pleasure is hard to find, which isn't surprising - sex is tabu, as is death, despite androcracy being a death cult - it hides the big one and the little very well. That one will be next on my list, though I'll have to visit a different library system.

I find it interesting to note that the local college university has not kept up to date on this imporrtant series of books. Hopefully, the larger universities have.

Firewire
September 6th, 2002, 10:06 PM
Woh dude. Waaaayyy too deep for me. The last books I read were Harry Potter :teeth:

Fluxx
September 6th, 2002, 10:42 PM
:rolleyes:

Er....

RosieTulips
September 6th, 2002, 10:47 PM
Is the "partnership way" like a cult? Can someone just give me a brief overview, please? Thanks.

sage bodhisattv
September 7th, 2002, 12:56 AM
This is not a cult: http://www.partnershipway.org

This is: http://www.gc.ca
and this: http://www.whitehouse.gov

Need I go on?

RosieTulips
September 7th, 2002, 01:06 AM
Gee! I didn't notice the first time you posted a link to partnershipway.org. Silly me!

You don't need to go on unless you have a real answer to my simple request and if you don't plan on going off on one of your long-winded tangents. I don't have time to dig through a web site that is not clear on its purpose. If the subject matter was *that* important, why not say why instead of telling people to figure it out for themselves? Life is too short. Just be straight up.

[The first post of this thread reminds me of a univeresity essay because it assumes the reader has a clue on the subject matter; however, I learned it's good to show examples to give clearer notions of one's opinions.]

sage bodhisattv
September 7th, 2002, 07:19 AM
remember when u were a kid and there were no pressures on you when u met a new boy.

u didn't have to worry about clothes to wear. mom dressed you.

u didn't use make up. maybe u could sneak a dab of perfume. and your shampoo was smelly enough.

and u played with boys.

all innocent.

suppose adult life was as uncomplicated. no oppression by orgre bosses, time, rush rush rush.

supposedly under a partnership model, things would get as uncomplicated because men wouldn't be wasting their times in strip clubs getting stinko while you're waiting for the bf/lover/hubbie to pick u up for dinner...

you'd also know the diff betweeen androcratic society and a partnership...

i try to live the partnership way but most women are still stuck in the modern ages.

but there's still time to turn the clock back to get to the future safely, rather than to do the caveman stuff dubya is doing.

the thing about androcratic societies is that they pretend to be civilized, but still fall back on improvements of their violence warrior past.

I ranted much too long.

Ask more questions, Rosie. I fill you in. :P

Big T Security
September 7th, 2002, 11:25 AM
I think I broke my brain

Fluxx
September 7th, 2002, 03:32 PM
"And after a three week hiatus, Sage gets back up on his tall horse..."

Dude...being happy and relaxed or innocent is all up to you... the blame laying is for the ones too afraid or too weak to admit their fallability, and the "path of the week" is for the ones too underdeveloped to find their own way. Got an ogre boss? Change your job. Feeling time rushed? work smarter and plan better. Feel guilty about going to strippers? Stop going...it's pretty damn simple if you stop looking for the conspiracy that is holding you down. Sometimes there is a question behind the question that needs to be asked...

Just my opinion...

sage bodhisattv
September 7th, 2002, 08:26 PM
Fluxx, you old fence post sitter you.

i know exactly what position you get in the new partnership society: the voice in the wilderness going,

"Avoid those hippies man, they suck. They actually wanted me to watch the grass grow."

Meanwhile the partnership people will go,
"Where did Fluxx go? we asked him to fetch a pail of water with Jill an month ago!!!"

Fluxx
September 8th, 2002, 01:05 AM
Dude...I am a hippie...I just don't need a book of rules to tell me how to be hippie...I had the ability to watch the grass grow already, and didn't need to pay a hypocrite 50 bucks a month to learn how. The position I'll have will be as the one who achieved true contentment first, without needing a team of groomers to help me make it there. As far as the partnership people, they won't ask where I am; my name won't matter to them...If they are truly content, how long it takes me to get water with jill will be a non issue. Hmmm...this brings up an issue...store bought contentment is not true contentment, so perhaps how long it takes to get the water will matter to them.
Really though, the person it won't matter to is me...and probably jill...

sage bodhisattv
September 8th, 2002, 01:12 PM
this doesn;t tell you to be a hippie, it tells you how to carry it forward from there.

laying low and letting the world go to pot, is pretty much what our spiritual ancestors did 6000 years ago.

either that or get co-opted into the idiocy that passes for politics today.

but like mahatma gandhi said, we don't really know what politics is about, because it all started with religion.

this books doesn't tell you to be a hippe, it tells you how to tell the diff between the Man being down on us and things being alright and actually adding value to the world.

as a buddhist i wouldn't get those tips from gazing at my navel, i get it from observing the crap going on now and acting in a way contrary to crap.

Riane Eisler isn't a hypocrite.

This isn't a scam, you can pick the books up for free at the library.

A wise old dead guy named Dorje Dradul wrote on spiritual materialism, which is what you mean by "storebought contentment", which applies to well-off people doing the rich man/camel through eye of needle thing.

Though, I'd probably be gone to fetch a pail of water with Jill too, seeing as a partnership society means we do things in a team...
;)